NewsVine's New Bugs

News Type: Event — Thu Oct 2, 2008 6:26 PM EDT

Here's some of the bugs I experience now under Safari 3.1.2:

In the comment editor when I select XHTML I no longer have a live preview.
In the comment editor sometimes the XHTML editor mangles tags so they show up as text
In the comment editor, after saving, the black "you can continue to edit" bar sometimes disappears.
Pictures I upload with an article no longer have captions
Comments from other people magically disappear and reappear
In the XHTML comment editor, newlines are magically lost when you re-edit a comment
Up-vote icons often and inconsistently disappear
Most infuriating, if you revise an article and then republish, sometimes the new edits you make just magically disappear. Poof, gone.

Also I find the new WYSIWYG editor awkward to use and I can't see any place to set XHTML editing as a preference on my account.

Obviously you guys need to test these things before releasing them live to bedevil your users. It would be best for you to roll back to the previous release until your act is back together.

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Peter Merel

I was actually looking for a good picture of the typewriter from Naked Lunch. But you get the idea.

PS. Don't call it "Normal Mode". Call it "Sucks Ass Mode".

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1 vote

#1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 6:29 PM EDT

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

Most infuriating, if you revise an article and then republish, sometimes the new edits you make just magically disappear. Poof, gone

That's my biggest frustration at this point.

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#1.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:56 PM EDT

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Peter Merel

testing xhtml mode after clearing cache ... 2 ... 2 ... 2

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#1.2 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:30 PM EDT

{"commentId":3269032,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}

SuperSaiyan

I totally agree with you on that one.

I've been encountering problems with this for two days now and it's aggrivating me to no end.

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2 votes

#2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:41 PM EDT

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AdipicAcid

The only problem I have been having is in articles that have deleted comments, sometimes the flow gets screwy. I mostly use Firefox, but I also use Safari from home.And I much prefer the new editor: the live preview in the old XHTML error was a source of constant frustration: its preview often did not match what was published, and the Javascript implementing it was quite inefficient and could cause either of my browsers to slow to crawl, not to mention what it did when trying to edit on an iPhone*.

*I haven't tried the new interface from my phone yet, so this may or may not have improved with the new editor.

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4 votes

#3 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 8:39 AM EDT

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cranegirl

Ok ... a stupid question... Why can't I get the "link" feature to work?

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2 votes

#4 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 10:43 AM EDT

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Division by Zero

The link feature works. First, type the word(s) that you want to use to make the hyperlink. Open the page you want to link to in a separate tab or window, highlight the link, and copy it. Next, highlight the word(s) in your comment that you're using to form the hyperlink. Click the link button. Paste (CTRL-V) your URL into the Link URL field. Select the target as same window or new window (I like opening in a new window). You don't have to put anything in the Title field. Click Insert.

Works like a charm.

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1 vote

#4.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:17 PM EDT

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

Or just click the use xhtml mode link to switch to the old way

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#4.2 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT

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Jay Butler

These meta articles are not supposed to be published to "All of Newsvine".

Newsvine Meta Articles - New Policy

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3 votes

#5 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:18 PM EDT

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Peter Merel

I don't think this article is meta. This is to say, it's not about any of Newsvine's content - policies, community, games, etc. This article is about software and bugs. So I think it's a legit technology article, and that the fact that we happen to be using the software it talks about is immaterial. An article about HTML limitations and bugs wouldn't be meta either.

Note that if a Newsvine admin decides otherwise I'll be happy to unpublish from 'All of Newsvine'.

And we'll have someone to whine at ...

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2 votes

#5.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 7:41 PM EDT

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Jay Butler

It is more of a bug report than an article. Did you send it off to the staff too?

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#5.2 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 7:58 PM EDT

{"commentId":3301826,"authorDomain":"PeterMerel"}

Peter Merel

@Jay,

If you know the best way to do that I'd be much obliged!

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1 vote

#5.3 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:07 PM EDT

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Jay Butler

Just use the "Report Bug" button on the upper right of each page. They probably already know, but more reports may raise the priority of them.

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2 votes

#5.4 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:41 PM EDT

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DamianKD

I experience missing vote counts, at random. For example, AdipicAcid's count shows, cranegirl's doesn't and Jay's does. Also, if I Post Comment & Vote, the Post Comment button grays out, and the Post & Vote button doesn't. Using latest Chromium on XP.

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2 votes

#6 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:21 PM EDT

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SuperSaiyan

I'm experiencing the same thing myself...

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#6.1 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 11:58 PM EDT

{"commentId":3290910,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Scott (Scoop) Butki

I just have one question:
So is there a way to read all of the comments on one single page?

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1 vote

#7 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:10 PM EDT

{"commentId":3291119,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

Division by Zero

No. Stop whining. <grin>

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2 votes

#7.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:18 PM EDT

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urbane gorilla

I have a old (in computer years) eMac (OSX 10.3.9) and Firefox 2.something - newsvine has never worked well on Safari for me. I notice freezeups, too. Since traffic has been very high lately, I can't tell if the problems are from the new stuff or the increase in volume.

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1 vote

#8 - Sun Oct 5, 2008 2:59 AM EDT

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Jay Butler

Newsvine has always worked fine on my Macs. But, by the time NV was created, I was already on OS X 10.4. I have no issues with either Safari 3 or Firefox 3 (or FF2 before that).

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1 vote

#8.1 - Sun Oct 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT

{"commentId":3324919,"authorDomain":"melonhead"}

urbane gorilla

I figgered as much, but, gosh darn it and jeepers, if the doggone Hubble telescope can operate with a l'i'l ol' 486, then newsvine oughta work on my not-so-old Mac. You betcha!*

_{*(Heavens to Betsy, what the heck's happenin' to me? And what's this mascara? and the Aquanet. . . they've gotten to me, must read a New Yorker. . . Noooooooo!)}

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3 votes

#8.2 - Sun Oct 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT

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Jay Butler

I do have the latest version of Safari and FF3 on my older PowerPC iMac (10.4). It runs just fine there. Maybe your issues have something to do with 10.3 Panther. I have been running 10.4 Tiger since it was released in 2005. I think that pre-dates NV by at least a few months. I joined here relatively early on in January 2006.

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1 vote

#8.3 - Sun Oct 5, 2008 6:00 PM EDT

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urbane gorilla

I'm sure it does. Memory may be the problem. I have the 1.25 GHz powerPC G$, with a paltry (in this day & age) 256 MB DDR SDRAM thus precluding installing Tiger - and at the Apple store they don't have what ever it is I need to double or quadruple it for this eMac. Harrumph. Henry Ford would be stunned at this amplification of planned obsolescence. Or senescence. Whatev. ;)

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1 vote

#8.4 - Sun Oct 5, 2008 7:15 PM EDT

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