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1% Socialism

This Is 1%.

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All we need to fix all America's economic ills is a wealth ceiling for the richest 1%. Say $1 Million each after their primary residence. No one on Earth needs more than $1 Million after owning their residence - anyone who says they do is obviously a robber baron:

The "World Wealth Report" is a report on individuals with a net worth of at least $1 million in all assets except their "primary residence". The report is compiled annually by Capgemini for Merrill Lynch. World Wealth Report 2007 - "The 11th annual World Wealth Report from Merrill Lynch/Capgemini finds the World's High Net Worth (HNW) population growing to 9.5 million with their assets rising to $37.2 trillion."

Most of the world's robber barons either reside in the USA or keep their assets here. So if we let the rich keep their primary residence plus $1 million of US assets each that nets the treasury about $27T in seized assets and cash. This is 2/3rds of the way to the 40 Trillion we need to achieve the "Patriotic Retirement Plan":

There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work force. Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

  1. They MUST retire. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.
  2. They MUST buy a new American CAR. Forty million cars ordered-Auto Industry fixed.
  3. They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage- Housing Crisis fixed.

We need another $13T to do this. Well, there's 300,000 churches in America. We could just replace these prayer-houses with twitter - which could finally get twitter paid at, say, 10c per tweet every Sunday ... but the back of my envelope says this selling the steeples only nets about $3T. So we won't get to own our homes shaking down the priests. We need a bigger gun - an elephant gun. Because a personal wealth ceiling ignores the elephant in the room.

The Corporations ...

That's where the robber barons shelter their real assets - those trillions in personal assets are all just for show. We can easily fund another $100T simply by introducing Georgism to the obscenely rich oil, coal, weapons and communications companies. These unholy cabals sell us the land under our feet and the conversations in our assemblies - both our birthrights as Americans sold back to us at extortionate prices. And they sell us the blood of our neighbours who never did us any harm. Let these monsters pay realistic land and infrastructure value taxes and do the American People a public service instead sucking our lifeblood. We'll let them keep enough to stay in business. But their presently gigantic oily asses truly belong to We, The People.

Under 1% Socialism we would have all America's debts paid, all its people housed and economically empowered to the tune of $1 million each, all its primary industries re-established, and an appropriate dividend to all our retirees that they will properly use to send their kids and grandkids to school and pay for the services of the new, prosperous generation of Americans.

Now I admit there is a downside. There would be several hundred billionaires beating a path to the door under this model. But if those ultra-rich value American freedoms so little, just let 'em leave their US assets in the US and vamoose. Because there's an old saying:

If someone borrows a buck from you and you never see them again, that was money well spent.

The robber barons and inheritors of robber barons can go live in the foreign principalities they own in South America and the Middle East. So long as they don't let the North American door hit them in their offshore tax evading butts on the way out, there's no bad karma in that. Wherever they go or whatever they do to the rest of the world, they're not our problem any more.

The other 99% of Americans can continue as pure capitalists. Fat, happy prosperous pure capitalists.

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Mikhail Gorbachev says it's time.

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Reply#1 - Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":7551845,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}

I'm all for churches losing their tax exempt status, espescially since so many of them actively pursue political interests with they save.

The rest of it would probably lead to something akin to Robert Aspirin's Cold Cash War, unfortunately.

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Reply#2 - Tue Jun 9, 2009 11:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":7575276,"authorDomain":"PeterMerel"}

I'm not certain I follow your reasoning, Jack. Say a bit more?

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    #2.1 - Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:52 AM EDT
    {"commentId":7583275,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}

    If you tell the most wealthy people in the world that they must give up all their cash, then they literally are being put in a position where it makes sense to spend almost all of their income to stop you. If he has a $100 billion in assets, it's logical for him to spend most of that to stop you.

    That begins with lobbying, then it continues with bribes, and eventually it might even lead to specific violent acts against people. More simply, it involves moving all of his money to another country. If he moves his assets away, you don't get to tax any of it.

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      #2.2 - Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:28 PM EDT
      {"commentId":7594566,"authorDomain":"eriktheread"}

      Right, Jack, that's why you should grab the money first.

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      #2.3 - Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:01 PM EDT
      {"commentId":8970151,"authorDomain":"PaddyClarke"}
      We could just replace these prayer-houses with twitter - which could finally get twitter paid at, say, 10c per tweet every Sunday ... but the back of my envelope says this selling the steeples only nets about $3T.

      Priceless.

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      #2.4 - Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:18 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":7552915,"authorDomain":"mad-rabbit"}

      Some smart guy out of the money-makers said once, that even you will take all the world money and spread them equally among the earth population, in couple of years they will get back in just the same pokets.

      But the point of the topc is good though.

      Btw there is a science called "economy of abundance". People studing and modeling the processes for a while already.

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        Reply#3 - Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:07 AM EDT
        {"commentId":7575049,"authorDomain":"PeterMerel"}

        @Nik,

        I agree with that smart guy. Another way of saying this is "a fool and his money are soon parted". But looking at the ultrawealthy as America's fat, it is only reasonable that we rely on them in otherwise lean times.

        As for an Economy of Abundance, that argument dates back to the 1930s. If we were happy when everything was booming, so it goes, then since we still have all the same houses, cars, and other goods we had then, why should we pay so much attention to the accounting that says we're poor now?

        Of course the answer to that is that it's not the things, but the flow of things that is subject to the accounting. And if we want to make things flow better, then we have to change the accounting system ...

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        #3.1 - Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:22 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":7563282,"authorDomain":"barkinhound"}

        Well, I like all those ideas. I don't think I'll be holding my breath and waiting for our Fearless Leaders to consider any such. Too bad you and I aren't runnin things. Hmmm. Mebbe not, we'd both probably end up having electric toaster accidents in the tub or something.

        Fairhope, Alabama has been running a single tax system based on Georgist theory fer some time. You can go to fairhopesingletax and then put that there .com after it and find out some info.

        Pittsburg has a system that is close.

        Best

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          Reply#4 - Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:38 PM EDT
          {"commentId":7574917,"authorDomain":"PeterMerel"}

          That sound a bit like this.

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            #4.1 - Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:09 AM EDT
            {"commentId":7583847,"authorDomain":"barkinhound"}

            Peter:

            Thank you for those links. Most interesting.

            Best to you

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              #4.2 - Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:53 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":7623962,"authorDomain":"unlikelybanter"}

              I have to say I think that you're right, there is capital to resolve the problems, as you argue, but I think that you are searching for it in the wrong places for the capital.

              First up: I say keep the churches tax exempt. Most churches that I know allow their facilities to be used by the community they live in. You can count steeples; but you can't count meals served, community meetings hosted, funerals and weddings offered for non-members unless you watch a church for a while. There are alot who don't serve there neighbors as themselves; but there are alot that do.

              Beyond that I'm sure curious about limiting both individual corporate cash and asset stockpiles. I think that Mr. Buffet makes a great point about inheritance that seems to be ever more important to discuss as we face down the crisis. I think that limiting inheritance may be more powerful than limiting individual assets earned by the living.

              Either way its quite a dream you've got; the question is alway one of priority.

              thanks for the thoughtful post

              unlikelyu

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                Reply#5 - Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:55 AM EDT
                {"commentId":7630133,"authorDomain":"PeterMerel"}

                Thank you, UB. I agree, going after the churches seems moot when you consider the enormous capital locked up in the corporations. That plus a personal wealth ceiling would make Americans the richest people on the planet. If only there were a way to vote a 1% socialist into power ... which seems pretty unlikely right now ...

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                  #5.1 - Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT
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